[amsat-bb] QIKCOM-2 SPoken Messages (Valid Contacts)

Paul Stoetzer n8hm at arrl.net
Mon Jul 27 13:05:13 UTC 2015

Generally a QSO is considered to be an exchange of calls and one other
piece of information - whether that's a signal report, grid square,
serial number, name, etc.


Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> Maybe what I really need to know, is whether a grid exchange is required to
> constitute a valid satellite contact, or just an exchange of calls?
> Bob
> *From:* Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga at usna.edu]
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 26, 2015 4:12 PM
> *To:* amsat bb
> *Cc:* Robert Bruninga
> *Subject:* Re: QIKCOM-2 SPoken Messages
> AMSAT Armchair "contact" lawyers:
> Continuing with the DTMF message ideas. What kind of exchange "counts" for
> satellite contacts?  (where counting matters)?  Does it really have to be
> CQ... QSL... and then QSL ...?
> For the DTMF Voice system, we could have two more messages:
> " CQ Satellite, my number is *"  (the satellite assigns the digit *)
> " QSL number _, my number is *" (station enters the _ in his reply)
> Usage would be:
> A station sends a DTMF uplink message "WB4APR says CQ Satellite my number
> is X".
> A responding station sends "W3ADO says QSL number X, my number is Y"
> Finishing it off with "WB4APR says QSL number Y, my number is X.
> Another station joins in "W4XYZ says QSL number X, my number is Z
> and the reply could be "WB4APR says QSL Number Z, my number is X...
> WB4APR made two valid contacts with XYZ and ADO.
> In otherwords is that  required for an exchange?  The number for "My number
> is *." is assigned sequencially for the pass, so that it is unique.  The
> QSL station always has to enter the number of the matching station to which
> he is responding.
> Just a thought.  Or does anyone give a hoot about counting satellite
> "contacts"?
> Bob, Wb4APR
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> In addition to all of the numbered ARL messages, we have now implemented all
> of these additional messages (as adjusted to fit) and found it was trivial
> to include a "0-9" modifier in messages... wherever a " _" appears.  There
> is still some room.
> Remember, for the sender using DTMF the message and callsign always fits
> into 16 digits from the DTMF keypad.  The format is:
>   CeMMxCCCCCCpppp#
> Where e is an emergency flag which, along with x, must be 9 if this is a
> true emergency message otherwise it says "TEST ... "
> Where MM is the message number (00 to 99)
> Where x is a numeric modifier for messages with a "_" in them.
> Where CCCCCC is the callsign in DTMF and pppp is the key position codes for
> the 6 letters
> See http://aprs.org/qikcom-2.html
> Here are the new  ones implemented.
> ------------------------
> W2JV suggested: “Greetings from AMSAT.  Keeping ham radio in space over 44
> years”.
> ------------------------
> WA1KAT suggested:
> There is no cell service here.
> Cell battery is dead.
> Cell power charging is limited.
> Radio power charging is limited.
> Next contact time available in 90 minutes.  (time of one full orbit)
> Next contact time is tomorrow.
> Contact me on _ Meter band. (interpret as 1=160, 2=2m, 3=30, 8=80, etc)
> --------------------------
> Bob added:
> Demonstrating APRStt at Hamfest
> Demonstrating APRStt to friends
> I am on schedule.
> I may be delayed _ hours
> I may be delayed _ days
> I may be early _ hours
> I May be early _ days
> I may quit early  _ stops
> I may go farther _ stops
> We are camping and enjoying it greatly.
> We are hiking and enjoying it greatly.
> Call me on my cell.
> Call my cell on the hour.
> Please Send items number _.     (1=Money,2= food, water, supplies, shoes,
> sleeping bag, blanket,fuel)
> We are operating on emergency power.
> We are operating on solar power.
> Just thinkin...
> Bob, WB4APR
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> Inviting proposed standard messages for the next APRS Satellite:
> Our next QIKCOM-2 APRS satellite will accept 2 digit uplink DTMF messages to
> be spoken on the downlink.  We have already programmed all of the ARRL
> standard radio grams and emergency messages.
> But there is room for more.  So think....  What kind of message would you
> want to send (that is not included in the existing ones) from your HT out in
> the wilderness.  At a hamfest?  or any other HAM Radio event or opportunity.
> Keep them simple and of the same order of length as the existing ones.
> The existing ones are listed here:
> http://nts.ema.arrl.org/node/30
> But the implementation cannot include blanks for fill-in like the regular
> ones.  But any sentence that stands alone can work.
> Just thought I'd open it up.  Plenty of RAM and only 1 week before
> delivery...
> Serious considerations only.  Thanks
> Bob, WB4APR
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