[amsat-bb] ISS contact protocol

Sean K. kx9x at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 29 01:24:13 UTC 2015

I would contend that there needs to be an exchange of data (sig report?) and an acknowledgement that signal reports were received by both stations.

KX9X: W1XYZ 599 FN31W1XYZ: R TU 599 FN67KX9X: R 73 

Meteor scatter ops and EME'ers have a protocol for what constitutes a QSO, especially with WSJT. So there's precendent from other communities.

These elements are needed for other satellite QSOs to count, as well.

My two cents. Your mileage may vary. Sean Kutzko
Amateur Radio KX9X
      From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>
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Hi Ted!

It sounds like you didn't have a complete QSO.  From what you wrote, it
looks like what shows up in red was transmitted from the ISS digipeater.
If you are seeing the packets as they are going from your station and from
the ISS, you should see something that includes "Via RS0ISS*" -
indicating a packet that was retransmitted by the ISS digipeater.  Do you
see a screen that looks something like the screenshot at:


(thanks to Mike AI6GS for posting that screenshot on his Twitter feed)

At a minimum, whatever you transmit needs to be digipeated by the ISS.
Then the other station needs to receive what is retransmitted, plus you
need to get something from the other station digipeated by the ISS.  There
needs to be some sort of back-and-forth, just like we do when working
other satellites in a voice mode or CW.

As for your other question, yes - you can log ISS packet contacts in the
Logbook of the World.  You'd set the PROP_MODE field in your QSO records
to be SAT, and use ARISS as the SAT_NAME.

If you'd like to try to make a QSO with me, let's chat away from this list and
see about making that happen.  I've made a few packet QSOs through the
ISS digipeater in the past couple of months, and would be happy to give it
a try with you.  Or, on the weekends in the afternoons, we could also try



On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
> I guess I'm a little fuzzy about what constitutes a valid contact when using
> the packet route. I have UISS up and running properly and can get into the
> ISS repeater and back out ok.
> So, last night there was a good pass for me and I throw out my CQ. The
> repeater heard me and came back in red. Couple of tries later I see, in red
> "K7TRK N6YG, 599 in Carmichael". I try to respond several times with my
> return message but never see me come back in red.
> So, is this just a partial contact as I did not see a red message from me to
> N6YG ?  (I suspect it is)
> Second question:  Can ISS contacts via packet be logged in LOTW as SAT
> contacts?
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