[amsat-bb] bounces

Burns Fisher burns at fisher.cc
Tue May 27 19:02:19 UTC 2014

Hi Kevin,

There was a discussion of this earlier.  It's a combination of the SENDERs
ISP and the mailman software used for this list.  The problem is well known
and is bothering people across the country.  (The same thing happened with
the mailing lists at my church, for example).  The quick description is
that aol, yahoo, and a few others started setting a bit in their mail
saying "receivers of this mail should check that they really came from aol
(or yahoo)."  Well, it turns out that when you send to a mailing list, the
list resends it to recipients.  In other words, your own ISP (who is
completely innocent) is seeing that the mail does NOT come from aol or
yahoo and bounces it.  (Some mail recipients likr gmail find the mail going
into their Spam folders instead).

So now the mailman software sees the bounce and has to decide what to do.
 Usually bounces are caused by full mailboxes or by someone changing their
address.  In either case, it is reasonable after a time to remove that
address from the list, and that is how mailman is normally set up.  This
kind of bounce used to be uncommon (or unknown).  Some other mailing list
programs have similar issues; mailbox happens to be the most common
troubled list program.

Mailman maintainers are developing fixes.  AMSAT's IT master knows of the
issue and something will happen when appropriate updates are available.  In
the meantime, the best way around this is to switch your mail to digest
form for the moment.  You should also be able to re-enable your account.
 Check around and see if you have a password, or you can delete and
re-create your address as well.


Burns W2BFJ

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:41 PM, WA6FWF <wa6fwf at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Like others I have been getting notifications of bounces of BB>me  and
> lately I noticed a post did not make it in, so today I get this
>  Your membership in the mailing list AMSAT-BB has been disabled due to
> excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> 27-May-2014.You will not get any more messages from this list until
> you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 3 more reminders like
> this before your membership in the list is deleted.
>   Really? this is the best way to handle a bounce?  My ISP points the
> finger at the BB the BB points it at my ISP.
> I belong to 4 other groups that send a email direct on each post with no
> bounces either way only Amsat-BB seems to have a issue.
> So I dunno I guess this may be goodbye guys its been fun... (it this makes
> it in)
> 73
> Kevin WA6FWF
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