[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT needs volunteers ???

Alan wa4sca at gmail.com
Sat Jun 8 10:27:08 PDT 2013


 >>Volunteering for AMSAT ...

No, but placing volunteers successfully is very similar when we are talking about technical rather
than non-specialized social service, which is the point I was addressing.  An important distinction,
not a "non inquisitor" sentence.  :)



-----Original Message-----
From: R Oler [mailto:orbitjet at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 11:51 AM
To: APBIDDLE at MAILAPS.ORG; 'Tom Lubbers K8TL'; Amsat BB
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT needs volunteers ???

This in many ways mirrors
corporate and educational hiring."

A non inquisitor sentence

Volunteering for AMSAT (or the Boy Scouts or insert volunteer group here)
is not "hiring"  and it certainly is not corporate or educational

Robert WB5MZO 

> From: wa4sca at gmail.com
> To: k8tl at earthlink.net; amsat-bb at amsat.org
> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 07:47:45 -0500
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT needs volunteers ???
> Tom,
> It IS true that AMSAT is always looking for volunteers. And we have an amazing number working on
> projects ranging from Fox to the day to day operations. However messily, the recruiting process
> works. However, in most cases it comes from someone with a specific skill, contacting a specific
> individual, about a specific project. In other cases, the person needing help contacts someone who
> they know who is a good fit, or based on a trusted recommendation. This in many ways mirrors
> corporate and educational hiring.
> What you are talking about are the generic "I want to work for AMSAT, what can I do?" volunteers. As
> has been said, those reading the applications are also volunteers who pass them on to other
> who may or may not respond. There have been times when the press of other projects, or personal
> health matters, have caused the applications to fall through the cracks. Also, as Gould has
> the idea of working for AMSAT is often more appealing than actually working for AMSAT. This is no
> reflection on your son or anyone else, but it does tend to encourage the use of people with proven
> skills and record over "walk ins." 
> As another respondent has said, ITAR is a complete roadblock for non-US citizens for most areas. As
> result of the NDAA changes, the first draft regulations are appearing. We have volunteers plowing
> through the extensive documents, most of which seem to be written in a foreign language. However, we
> have expectations that the current ban will be lifted in the foreseeable future, or at least made
> reasonable. The primary benefit will be working with our colleagues in other national AMSATs, but it
> will also open up our own ability to accept foreign volunteers. 
> All that having been said, I am working on getting the AMSAT generic recruitment running a bit more
> effectively. This will include a more targeted approach for those expressing interest, and at least
> some sort of reply. Of course, I am also just a volunteer. :)
> 73s,
> Alan
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