[amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb

i8cvs domenico.i8cvs at tin.it
Thu Sep 3 02:51:35 PDT 2009

----- Original Message -----
From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh at comcast.net>
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca>; <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:12 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb

> P3E is a HEO with the same engine as P3D and no benefactor funding a

Hi John, KD6OZH

P3E is the only HEO with the possibility to be launched because her will
carry on  several experiments related to the Mars probe P5A under
development in AMSAT-DL
P3E is already made and it is standing in the labs of the University of
Marburg Germany and is waiting for a launch opportunity while P5E is still
under development.

> It seems more reasonable to focus on projects that we can pay to launch

All joined AMSAT togheter in the world has not the financial capability to
pay for a HEO launch and this matter has been already discussed several
time on this BB

> or  where someone has already donated the launch.

Nobody has donated a launch for free or about for free on HEO except ESA for
OSCAR-10 OSCAR-13 and AO40 upon political strategy conducted mostly by
AMSAT-DL and this is why we must pull for P3E.......I agree completely with

Actually the rest of HEO's are only on brains, on desk and on papers.

> 73,
> John

73" de

i8CVS Domenico

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6 at videotron.ca>
> To: <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 02:42 UTC
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Trolls on the -bb
> >> I know AMSAT has had it's issues over it's long history, and we are all
> >> disappointed that HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now. We
> >> all
> >> human and we all make mistakes, especially when it involves rocket
> >> engines,
> >> building spacecraft on hobby store budgets, and getting all past our
> >> benefactor launch agency trials and schedules.
> >
> > If "HEOs seem to be almost out of reach for us now" what we should do
> > next? no more false illusions about geo sat's and so on just get back
> > on earth and focused on how to help P3E and our German friend.
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