# [amsat-bb] Re: Optimal Distance

Edward Cole kl7uw at acsalaska.net
Mon May 25 07:38:04 PDT 2009

```At 02:39 AM 5/25/2009, Norman W Osborne wrote:
>Hello everyone,
>
>I am looking for suggestions for optimal distance between X yagi's
>on a boom, so that there will be none or very little interaction with their
>respective radiation fields.
>
>Also I will be adding a 24" dish between the two yagi's
>on the same boom with the 70cm and 2 meter X yagi.
>
>Thanks to all in advance
>Norman.

Norman,

Since I have not seen any response to you on amsat-bb, I will.

First we need to know the aperture of the antennas.  This will have
to be calculated from the gain.  Unfortunately, most antenna
manufacturers are optimistic about the gain of their antenna.  But if
you have the gains in dBd:
1. Convert to dBi = 2.1 + dBd
2. Convert gain to a ratio G = 10^(dBi/10)
2. Use this formula G = 4*pi*Ae/lambda^2 to derive Ae
3. Ae = G*lambda^2/(4*pi) = G*4.33/12.56 = 3.45*G
4. Ae for x-yagi is assumed a circle:  Ae = pi*R^2
5. R = sqrt(Ae/3.14),  R is the width of your aperture so half that
would be used for stacking distance.
6. The distance between 2m and 70cm antenna = 1/2 (R(2m) + R(70cm))

The dish will probably sit inside the 2m aperture but be outside the
aperture of the 70cm antenna.  I mounted my 436CP42 and 2m antennas
five feet apart with the 33-inch dish set on the UHF side of the
B5400 az-el rotator.  This is probably closer than using the
apertures for stacking.

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