[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT UK P3E Lecture HEO vs GEO. and AMSAT-NAPriorities

Andrew Glasbrenner glasbrenner at mindspring.com
Tue Aug 12 10:13:40 PDT 2008

If anyone wants to know why the majority of BOD members avoid the -bb like 
the plague, replies like Joe's are why.

Dialog is always open, but sometimes facts get in the way. Do you know that 
AMSAT-NA has spent more money on P3E than Eagle so far? The launch is the 
prime problem we have to solve. AMSAT leadership is working very hard to 
find a way to get to a high orbit. As I type this we have people talking to 
various launch providers at the SmallSat conference about HEO, MEO, and GEO 
launch opportunities. AMSAT leadership also spent this entire weekend 
sequestered working on alternative strategies to accomplish our goals, and 
to fix the problems we know we have. I also recently travelled to the Alaska 
Hamfest (not on AMSAT's dime) to present our status to the attendees, and to 
take their concerns and recommendations into account. If you have some 
specific plan, idea, or want to volunteer to help make your desires come 
true, then by all means let someone know directly. Member opinions are 
important, and are taken seriously, and we need all the help we can get.

More information on these course corrections will be forthcoming soon. 
Sooner if people quit throwing stones.

73, Drew KO4MA

Joe, I noticed your membership was last renewed in 2004. Perhaps you might 
want to call Martha at 1800 322 6728 and renew if you want your opinions for 
AMSAT's direction to be taken to heart. Successful change comes from within, 
and the last time I got mad at AMSAT I signed up as a Life Member, and then 
ran for the BOD the following year.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <k7zt at suddenlink.net>
To: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner at mindspring.com>; <amsat-bb at amsat.org>; 
"John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh at comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT UK P3E Lecture HEO vs GEO. and 

> NOTICE to ALL HEO proponents:
> YOU HAVE BEEN OVERRULED, dialog is finished, so stop it.
> ---- Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner at mindspring.com> wrote:
>> At this point AMSAT is going to take the first thing that gets us above 
>> LEO
>> that we can afford. If that is HEO, so be it. If it is GEO, it's GEO. 
>> Being
>> divided and fussy over the details only detracts from the effort. We are
>> basically beggars in the launch market, and we all know the saying about
>> beggars and choosers. The mission is to provide long access time 
>> satellite
>> comms on a daily, then 24/7 basis. How that happens is yet to be
>> determined...
>> Sorry to be so brief but I have a lot going on with my day job at the
>> moment. There will be more information forthcoming.
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Joe Westbrook" <k7zt at suddenlink.net>
>> To: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh at comcast.net>; <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:44 AM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT UK P3E Lecture HEO vs GEO. and
>> AMSAT-NAPriorities
>> > John:
>> > That certainly is one approach, I'm not saying that there is anything
>> > wrong
>> > with that, it's just a change in the stated goals of Eagle.
>> > The leadership needs to get in front of this and announce this is a
>> > significant shift in  organizational strategy if indeed that is the 
>> > plan.
>> >
>> > At they same time for the sake of honesty they should probably tell 
>> > folks
>> > that this will end AMSAT-NA sponsorship of an HEO (Molmiya Orbit)
>> > anytime soon or even in their lifetime ;-/
>> >
>> > - Joe
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh at comcast.net>
>> > To: "Joe Westbrook" <k7zt at suddenlink.net>; <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:05 AM
>> > Subject: Re: AMSAT UK P3E Lecture HEO vs GEO. and AMSAT-NA Priorities
>> >
>> >
>> >> >
>> >>> It appears that leadership is allowing realities of
>> >>> a rare, expensive launch opportunity drive the mission rather than 
>> >>> the
>> >>> mission driving the launch method,  it's a bit like the tail wagging 
>> >>> the
>> >>> dog
>> >>> don't you think?
>> >>>
>> >> AO-40 was the case of a rare launch opportunity driving the mission. 
>> >> The
>> >> AMSAT BoD has stated that the purpose of creating a relelationship 
>> >> with
>> >> Intelsat would be to provide multiple launch opportunities. It seems 
>> >> to
>> >> me
>> >> that finding an affordable launch method should be the first step 
>> >> rather
>> >> than the last step.
>> >>
>> >> 73,
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >> KD6OZH
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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