[eagle] Re: ITAR BS

John B. Stephensen kd6ozh at comcast.net
Tue Sep 9 14:12:05 PDT 2008


The other aspect is that if AMSAT can't show that its operations won't 
violate ITAR, it may make component providers and launch providers nervous 
about dealing with us.

73,

John
KD6OZH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob McGwier" <rwmcgwier at gmail.com>
To: "'Matt Ettus'" <matt at ettus.com>; "'EAGLE'" <eagle at amsat.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 20:40 UTC
Subject: [eagle] Re: ITAR BS


>I think this misses the point of these discussions.  Some of our most
> valuable, long term, productive volunteers, people who have been producing
> real results for a long time,  have been sitting on the sideline because 
> of
> the fear of ITAR and its implications.  Shortly after our first major
> meeting where ACP was really introduced,  they almost completely pulled 
> back
> from us.  They have a specific example they can point to, in a person we 
> all
> know who was caught up in it, pursued by the authorities, and ate a real
> cost that pushed them to the edge financially.
>
> It just isn't worth taking the risk to them and thus it is very costly to
> us.
>
> I don't think anyone blames ITAR for all that happened here since June.
>
> Bob
>
>
> ARRL SDR Working Group Chair
> Member: ARRL, AMSAT, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats,
> NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC.
> "Trample the slow ....  Hurdle the dead"
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eagle-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:eagle-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf 
> Of
> Matt Ettus
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:59 PM
> To: 'EAGLE'
> Subject: [eagle] ITAR BS
>
>
>
> Saying that the reason there is no progress on Eagle is because of ITAR
> is like saying that the reason my dog hasn't read "The Complete Works of
> William Shakespeare" is because he can't reach it on the top bookshelf.
>
> The real reasons why there is no progress:
>    Nobody knows what "Eagle" is anymore
>    Everyone who was actually doing any work was summarily "fired".
> Multiple times in some cases.
>
> Matt
>
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