[eagle] Re: 10.7 MHz Spur

Juan Rivera juan-rivera at sbcglobal.net
Mon Jul 2 20:53:18 PDT 2007


John,

 

This is going to require some uninterrupted time when I can think.  It's too
difficult to get much done on work nights so I'll probably have to put it
off until the weekend, or perhaps the 4th.

 

73, Juan

 

  _____  

From: John B. Stephensen [mailto:kd6ozh at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 9:01 PM
To: juan-rivera at sbcglobal.net
Cc: eagle at amsat.org; 'Bill Ress'; 'Dave Black (Home)'; 'Dave Black (Work)';
'Dave hartzell'; 'David Smith'; 'Don Ferguson'; 'Juan.Rivera (Work)';
'Samsonoff at Mac. Com'
Subject: Re: 10.7 MHz Spur

 

The possible sources are the PLLs and the logic inside the onboard TCXO. Can
you turn off the internal TCXO by removing the ferrite bead feeding it power
and use and external 10 MHz reference?

 

If this doesn't work, the PLL division ratios can be changed.

 

73,

 

John

KD6OZH

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Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 03:19 UTC

Subject: RE: 10.7 MHz Spur

 

John,

 

The short answer is 'no'.  Click here
<http://www.juanr.com/pages/hobbies/ham_radio/Eagle/IMD+Phase_Noise.htm>
for details and scroll to the bottom of the log...

 

Juan

 

-----Original Message-----
From: John B. Stephensen [mailto:kd6ozh at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 2:42 PM
To: juan-rivera at sbcglobal.net
Cc: eagle at amsat.org; Bill Ress; Dave Black (Home); Dave Black (Work); Dave
hartzell; David Smith; Don Ferguson; Juan. Rivera (Home); Juan.Rivera
(Work); Samsonoff at Mac. Com
Subject: Re: 10.7 MHz Spur

 

Does the spur go away if the external reference is on (whether or not it is 

routed to the PLLs)?

 

73,

 

John

KD6OZH

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Juan Rivera" <juan-rivera at sbcglobal.net>

To: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh at comcast.net>

Cc: <eagle at amsat.org>; "Bill Ress" <bill at hsmicrowave.com>; "Dave Black 

(Home)" <dblack1054 at yahoo.com>; "Dave Black (Work)" 

<dblack at mail.arc.nasa.gov>; "Dave hartzell" <hartzell at gmail.com>; "David 

Smith" <w6te at msn.com>; "Don Ferguson" <kd6ire at sbcglobal.net>; "Juan. Rivera 

(Home)" <juan-rivera at sbcglobal.net>; "Juan.Rivera (Work)" 

<Juan.Rivera at gd-ais.com>; "Samsonoff at Mac. Com" <samsonoff at mac.com>

Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 14:22 UTC

Subject: 10.7 MHz Spur

 

 

> John,

> 

> I found the source of the 10.7 MHz spur.  It's being generated inside the

> receiver itself.  This is the first spur I have found that is not caused 

> by

> switching power supplies.

> 

> The origin appears to be in the 10 MHz reference area.  I turned off and

> unplugged the SDR-IQ and fed the IF output from the 70 cm Receiver to my

> TS-2000.  The spur is still there.

> 

> Next I connected the RF input to my sniffer loop and moved it around the 

> PCB

> surface.  I get the strongest signal near the long trace between the two

> Freq inputs to U4 and U9, the two phased-locked loops.

> 

> 73,

> 

> Juan

> 

> 

 

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