[amsat-dc] Re: AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop 2013 (Planning 1.0)

Samudra Haque samudra.haque at gmail.com
Mon Jan 7 10:23:22 PST 2013

Pat, just a question, in a common room, what is the noise level there? will
we need any sort of intercom/talkback system to coordinate

Or, also, how about a remote screen sharing program for accessing a
projector - to allow instructors to show teams on what to do? (unless there
will be a projector)

Last question, will we be able to use our laptops to get internet access
there using the GSFC  guest wi-fi network?


On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680) <
patrick.l.kilroy at nasa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
> Thank you for your great comments and ideas!
> First, yes, please check with MARC to see what
> conditions they would like to set for sponsorship.
> A $20 across the board fee for AMSAT members
> sounds okay.  With a followup to the discounts
> if possible.  (Would be nice if we don't have to
> deal out money during the event.)
> Please check to see if the wildapricot system
> can "refund" half of the fee after the event for
> where it is confirmed that a person indeed (1)
> brought a "substantial" demo station or (2)
> gave a "substantial" presentation knowing that
> individuals will be offering extemporaneous
> short talks/guidance throughout the event, or
> (3) that the attendee is an AMSAT-NA Life
> Member.
> I really like the idea of offering Life members
> the discount, even though *I* do not qualify
> today.
> So, maybe (gulp!) it should be $30 for non-members,
> hoping that those individuals will call Martha
> to become a member and effectively get "$10 off"
> in a way??
> To recap: $30 non-members; $20 AMSAT-NA members
> and sponsor/MARC members (claim one, unfortunately
> not both); $10 AMSAT-NA Life Members, right off
> the top.  And we consider to apply any discounts
> *after* to those who wish to claim a discount.
> Thoughts?
> (I expect to pay full AMSAT $20 price -- to test
> the system? -- and probably won't bother to claim
> a discount.)
> "Leftover" money can be used to buy more goodies/
> food/misc/other for the event itself and then
> and only then any further "left-over" be donated
> to AMSAT-NA.  Drinks all day and a catered
> lunch is sounding better all the time.
> I will drop the idea of a raffle or a silent
> auction SOON unless we find someone to delegate
> the task after the more important roles are
> filled.  Since I just might consider doing this
> SAME workshop annually then some things like
> this might wait a year before implementation.
> Yes, there is a dual-use factor between the
> high-altitude balloon portable ground station
> and the amateur satellite portable ground station.
> In fact, one of my RF sources is to be one of
> the PICetSat modules beeping on 433.920 MHz AM/
> I am working on getting a LARGE room with 6-ft
> tables and chairs available with lots of elbow
> room.  Not the same building as before, it is
> under renovation.
> A live demo is good but depending on which
> building we are in, and the complexity of who's
> station employed, will dictate.
> I'd hate to hold a concurrent flea market and
> have to answer to that with my employer, but
> there HAS to be a low-impact means to barter
> gear.
> SDR yes!  Maybe Tom Clark will show his little
> toys and provide color commentary???
> Things are starting to gell.  Let's keep the
> idea exchanges alive.  More comments?
> Cheers,
> Pat
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Semple [mailto:brucesemple at verizon.net]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:09 PM
> To: Kilroy, Patrick L. (GSFC-5680); amsat-dc at amsat.org
> Subject: RE: [amsat-dc] AMSAT-DC Spring Workshop 2013 (Planning 1.0)
> Pat, Dan, Steve .. and all
> Pat - thanks for getting the ball rolling on this --
> 1. Great!
> 2. Our Club (Montgomery Amateur Radio Club - MARC) has recently purchased a
> subscription to a Membership Registration Service - to manage the club
> membership -- One of the functions it offers is  event registration
> (http://www.wildapricot.com/event-registration)   I have initiated an
> inquiry with our board to see if MARC is willing to be a "sponsor" of the
> AMSAT-DC workshop -- and allow us to use the event registration feature of
> this SaaS (Software as a Service) offering.  Notice it would handle the fee
> collection, and if needed, a structured fee plan.
> 3. I am in favor of a basic fee -- $20 seems reasonable.  Yes, I could see
> waiving some or all of it for presenters / demonstrators.
> I agree to stay "on site" for lunch would be more efficient.
>   Option D:   -- let's see how many "helpers" we get to see if we a silent
> auction is an option.   I am assuming we would have to have some
> contingency
> plan if some items don't get "bought" at their minimum price.
> 4. people are probably going to block the whole day -- so we could probably
> run until 4:30 --   Maybe have all the "formal" activities wrap up by 3:30
> -
> Do we need to allow for some cleanup time -- to get the donated space "back
> in order"
> -- it would definitely be good to get rolling by 10:00am --  are we
> thinking
> lunch @ 12:30 - 1:00 -- maybe we should start a little earlier?
> -- I think it would be nice to have a couple of 20-30 minute talks or
> talk/demonstration planned. --
> Would we be meeting in the same room as last time -- could it be
> partitioned
> off -- so that if someone did not want to attend a "talk" they could keep
> browsing?  --
> 5. Do we have the option of opening it up for "satellite related" equipment
> swap"  if hams want to bring in some equipment they want to sell?
> 6. Other Ideas --
>    -- Obviously SDR's is one of the hot tech topics --   I went ahead and
> got one of the $20  SDR dongles (January QST)  and got the SDR# software up
> & running --
>   -- I'm still not completely sure what the I & Q signals are -- how are
> they created --
> It would be great to have a SDR SME there to answer questions.
> Regarding "working the birds" -- I think one of the biggest challenges  -
> Especially with the linear birds is managing the Doppler shift ...
>   -- how are you doing it on your portable station?
> It would be interesting to have some sort Doppler shift simulator  and let
> participants get a sense of the tuning required.
> 7.   Are you thinking about working a pass during the workshop?
>    FO-29 goes overhead between  11:30am - 12:30
>   We should also be able to get in an SO-50 (FM bird) pass
> 8.Possible Talk Topics
>     -  "getting ready to work the next AMSAT-NA cubsat
>     - SDR's how they work
>     - AMSAT-NA - Current Operational Status of existing sats
>       -- Near future plans - (can we get Drew to stop by?)
>     - Pat - do you have any of your balloon hardware you want to show off
> --
> or talk about recent flights?
> 73,
> Bruce
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