[amsat-bb] ISS contact protocol

Bill Attwood whattwood at gmail.com
Thu Jan 29 18:40:50 UTC 2015


Paul, would this then count as a QSO?  His beacon, my QSL, his automated 
ACK?

00:00:19:45 : N0AN-6]...::VE6WK-7 :ack01 00:00:19:48 : 
VE6WK-7]...::N0AN-6 :qsl{1 00:00:20:00 : N0AN-6]...Hasan Iowa EN22

Regards,
Bill VE6WK


On 1/28/2015 6:32 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> FWIW, KK5DO posted this standard for packet QSOs via the ISS 10 years ago.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200501/msg00347.html
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Sean K. <kx9x at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I would contend that there needs to be an exchange of data (sig report?)
>> and an acknowledgement that signal reports were received by both stations.
>>
>> KX9X: CQ KX9X FN31
>> W1XYZ: KX9X de W1XYZ
>> KX9X: W1XYZ 599 FN31W1XYZ: R TU 599 FN67KX9X: R 73
>>
>> Meteor scatter ops and EME'ers have a protocol for what constitutes a QSO,
>> especially with WSJT. So there's precendent from other communities.
>>
>> These elements are needed for other satellite QSOs to count, as well.
>>
>> My two cents. Your mileage may vary. Sean Kutzko
>> Amateur Radio KX9X
>>        From: Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <amsat-bb at wd9ewk.net>
>>   To: "amsat-bb at amsat.org" <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>>   Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 5:37 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS contact protocol
>>
>> Hi Ted!
>>
>> It sounds like you didn't have a complete QSO.  From what you wrote, it
>> looks like what shows up in red was transmitted from the ISS digipeater.
>> If you are seeing the packets as they are going from your station and from
>> the ISS, you should see something that includes "Via RS0ISS*" -
>> indicating a packet that was retransmitted by the ISS digipeater.  Do you
>> see a screen that looks something like the screenshot at:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/ai6gs/status/559950544760893440/photo/1
>>
>> (thanks to Mike AI6GS for posting that screenshot on his Twitter feed)
>>
>> At a minimum, whatever you transmit needs to be digipeated by the ISS.
>> Then the other station needs to receive what is retransmitted, plus you
>> need to get something from the other station digipeated by the ISS.  There
>> needs to be some sort of back-and-forth, just like we do when working
>> other satellites in a voice mode or CW.
>>
>> As for your other question, yes - you can log ISS packet contacts in the
>> Logbook of the World.  You'd set the PROP_MODE field in your QSO records
>> to be SAT, and use ARISS as the SAT_NAME.
>>
>> If you'd like to try to make a QSO with me, let's chat away from this list
>> and
>> see about making that happen.  I've made a few packet QSOs through the
>> ISS digipeater in the past couple of months, and would be happy to give it
>> a try with you.  Or, on the weekends in the afternoons, we could also try
>> NO-44.
>>
>> 73!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
>> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Ted <k7trkradio at charter.net> wrote:
>>> I guess I'm a little fuzzy about what constitutes a valid contact when
>> using
>>> the packet route. I have UISS up and running properly and can get into
>> the
>>> ISS repeater and back out ok.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, last night there was a good pass for me and I throw out my CQ. The
>>> repeater heard me and came back in red. Couple of tries later I see, in
>> red
>>> "K7TRK N6YG, 599 in Carmichael". I try to respond several times with my
>>> return message but never see me come back in red.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, is this just a partial contact as I did not see a red message from
>> me to
>>> N6YG ?  (I suspect it is)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Second question:  Can ISS contacts via packet be logged in LOTW as SAT
>>> contacts?
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