[amsat-bb] What on earth (or in space...) is going on?

Pete Parisetti peteparisetti at gmail.com
Sat Dec 26 19:48:00 UTC 2015

You see, Dave, this is way more information that I have managed to gather
in the whole of 2015. Thank you so much for that!

Fair enough, I didn't go to the symposium, but a whole lot of other people
didn't go, and we have no way to know otherwise, which I find a shame.

All your points are well understood. I only and very dearly hope that
what's possibly flying on the HEO is NOT the digital voice thing they are
talking about for the geostationary one. Fine on the 5/10 frequency
combination. That'll be a nice challenge!

One thing I don't understand: if they remove the engine, how does the HEO
bird get into high orbit?

Thanks again and 73.


On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 4:14 PM, David G0MRF <g0mrf at aol.com> wrote:

> Hi Pete.
> So, it's a lot of changes from the old P3E but then the plans for that are
> 15 years old.....So pretty much dead.
> The spaceframe for P3E is tested for flight (same as AO-13)
> Virginia tech are proposing to remove the engine and add a commercial
> payload but keep the general concept of an amateur radio satellite.
> All the transponder designs are 20 years out of date...So dustbin for them
> In their place goes a set of 10G transmitters and 5GHz receivers as the
> basis of a digital transponder.
> Not all new. A-NA are also using the same transponder technology on a
> hosted payload going to geosync orbit to cover the Americas.
> So that's one geosync hosted payload and another high earth orbit sat
> built around the P3E spaceframe. Both are 5G up and 10G down
> (Don't hold your breath though....these things have a habit of not quite
> working out as planned...but we all hope they will)
> 73
> David  G0MRF
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Parisetti <peteparisetti at gmail.com>
> To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> Sent: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:32
> Subject: [amsat-bb] What on earth (or in space...) is going on?
> I have been sucked into a discussion that makes me feel like I have spent
> the last six months in a coma...
> In a nutshell:
> Now, let me remind you of the latest developments, as seen from a casual
> but highly interested observer like myself, and you will tell me if this is
> a sad joke or what.
> 1) From the AMSAT newsfeed, on July 25 we learn that "AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-DL,
> and Virginia Tech Announce Potential Phase-3E Opportunity".
> 2) In the following months there has been absolutely NO FOLLOW-UP, no
> information whatsoever on this potentially crucial piece of information.
> 3) A couple of days ago, completely out of the blue, we learn that "AMSAT
> Ground Terminal Development Expands to Texas".
> Hello? WTF is going on here? The P3E launch opportunity has morphed into a
> geostationary satellite (never heard a thing about that). The projct has
> morphed from a P3E "old school" satellite into this digital monster (never
> heard a thing about that). Things have developed to such an extent that now
> "ground terminals are being expanded"...
> Here's a link to the thread:
> http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/first-amateur-radio-in-geosynchronous-orbit.505312/page-3
> 73 HNY Pete MM0TWX
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