[amsat-bb] Public Relations
tomdoyle1948 at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 14:11:30 PST 2013
I realize that AMSAT is "completely different" (a quote from W.W.) but here
goes. The State Historical Society here needed people to run it so who
better equipped than history professors from the university. After all who
knows more about history than history professors. I am sure they had a vast
knowledge of the dates for all historic events. They are just the type of
people to handle fund raising and public relations. Their vast knowledge of
history certainly qualifies them in these areas.
After financial problems set in they hired someone who was not a history
professor but someone with a background in administration and management.
You can well imagine how this sat with the profs as they looked with
distain from their ivory tower down at this guy who probably did not even
know the date of the battle of Hastings.
Much to everyone's surprise under his leadership it worked out and they
got the organization back on track.
What qualifications are needed for a fund raiser and PR in AMSAT. The
person had better have a ham license. They had better know how to phase a
pair of crossed yagis. They had better be able to solder. It is important
that they have worked at least a few hundred grid squares and most
importantly they had better know how to edit an Doppler.sqf file. If they
can do those things they certainly can handle the "simple" task of PR and
fund raising because after all AMSAT is completely different.
73 W9KE Tom Doyle
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Rich,
> *"I don't think that the school systems across the country have a clue of
> the great resources in ARRL, AMSAT, local clubs, and citizens offer
> including the local system where K4AMG mentors. They just don't get!"*
> Actually some do. Just look and talk to the schools that had direct
> contacts with the ISS (ARISS). The local hams have worked wonders and some
> of the teachers are now engaging much more in amateur radio related STEM
> activities. It takes local folks to make a difference in local schools like
> you are proposing. It takes AMSAT, ARRL and others to make key support
> materials available for the local folks.
> Be prepared for the obvious and not so obvious questions:
> How does that fit within the approved curriculum and planned activities?
> What are the resources you will provide to the local school and especially
> the teachers?
> Who will be doing it? What will it cost?
> ...and so on.
> Good luck and keep us posted.
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff at verizon.net
> > Hi all,
> > I don't think that the school systems across the country have a clue of
> > the great resources in ARRL, AMSAT, local clubs, and citizens offer
> > including the local system where K4AMG mentors. They just don't get!
> > That is why we are now assembly a presentation for our school board.
> > * Send to each board member resource info
> > * Hopefully speak with them 1 - 1
> > * Make presentation to the entire board
> > * Make some suggestions
> > * K4AMG will help fund the extra things that might be needed, no extra
> > expense to the city.
> > So PR info is critical to all of us!
> > Earlier this year, when we borrowed the CUBESAT simulator, we did discuss
> > trying to build a CUBESAT. I think that if there was a parts list or a
> > we could do that a lot easier. We could use our coordinated repeater
> > frequencies all ready assigned (1/2 duplex). It may never be launched
> > we could arrange to have it flown every now and then.
> > I hope that this will development more discussion leading to a plan,
> > action, and desired results
> > God Bless
> > Rich
> > W4BUE
> > ***********************
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryce Salmi" <bstguitarist at gmail.com
> > To: "Stefan Wagener" <wageners at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net>; "AMSAT BB" <
> > amsat-bb at amsat.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:49 PM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Public Relations Lacking
> > Just a few comments:
> > - I'd be up for any document like this being publicly available
> > - AMSAT Engineering is using it's expertise in radio comms as leverage
> > for supplying a comms board to other cubesat payloads that can be turn
> > into
> > a full fledged bent pipe transmitter at end of mission. Not sure if
> > is
> > actively being promoted yet, probably more leverage once Fox-1 flies
> > - I have no idea if AMSAT has a presence (official) at the cubesat
> > symposiums and conferences (I think there's a big one in Utah or at
> > was). That would be a good idea for this.
> > - A great start would be to build up excitement within amateur radio
> > use that momentum to extend it. Again at least on AMSAT-NA side of
> > Fox-1 is a big step towards that.
> > Nice discussion!
> > Bryce
> > KB1LQC
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > This ARISS guide is very useful for schools and communities seeking a
> >> voice
> >> contact with the ISS. It is a procedure "manual" for a very specific
> >> purpose to guide applicants in the process for one specific goal, the
> >> contact. While the guide clearly fulfills its purpose and is used widely
> >> in
> >> preparation, it does not even mention AMSAT (however refers to the
> >> However, the format and purpose is NOT useful for engaging individuals
> >> and/or groups involved in cubesats and amateur radio.
> >> What is needed is a “101 on CubeSats and Amateur Radio” document/guide
> >> that
> >> at certain levels of detail clearly outlines the benefits, pitfalls and
> >> processes involved in using amateur radio within a planned cubesat
> >> project.
> >> It should preferably be written by AMSAT (available in the store?)
> >> the amateur radio satellite community at large is a great resource. In
> >> essence, we need to tell folks not how (necessarily) but why they should
> >> include us and clearly outline the benefits (assuming we have a few).
> >> All universities and even schools have in general a very effective
> >> communication group/department and their ability to promote their
> >> for fundraising purposes speaks volume. The lack of engagement by these
> >> groups with our community is based on previous experience and/or
> >> ignorance.
> >> Both of these are something we as a community have to take
> >> for. Negative experience based on cubesat bashing has done a lot of
> >> (based on very personal experience) and the lack of clearly outlining
> >> benefits, our expertise, specific services and other tangible factors is
> >> also a factor.
> >> If, and I say if, engaging the cubesat community is a priority of AMSAT
> >> (NA), it will require time, resources and a full commitment by the board
> >> and yes, most of all volunteers. What could help is for example having a
> >> working group chaired by a VP for cubesats (small satellites) and having
> >> the annual meeting in partnership with one of the annual cubesat
> >> symposiums
> >> for a joint conference. However, the board will have to decide how
> >> important that is in comparison to other priorities. In the meantime, it
> >> is
> >> up to the individuals making an effort on the local level.
> >> My 2 cents, and I am going back working on our local ARISS project.
> >> Stefan
> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Clint Bradford
> >> <clintbrad4d at earthlink.net>wrote:
> >> > >Is the guide available ...
> >> >
> >> > This is not the exact one I used for our ARISS contact ... but it is
> >> close
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> > https://files.secureserver.net/0fgxMFjvG2DaFC
> >> >
> >> > I will upload the other one tonight - to the same folder.
> >> >
> >> > Clint
> >> > 909-241-7666 - cell
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------
> >> > Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> >> > http://www.clintbradford.com
> >> >
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