[amsat-bb] Re: Confirm Message (Moderator please help??)

Alan wa4sca at gmail.com
Mon Dec 16 14:19:45 PST 2013


You can use listmaint at amsat.org.  However, we are aware of the situation. From the report, "SpamCop
users have reported system as a source of spam less than 10 times in the past week." works out to
about 1 a day, or less.  Just enough to keep the blacklist in place.  That means it may be only one
computer, and SpamCop makes it impossible to locate a single user.



<-----Original Message-----
<From: Joe Leikhim [mailto:rhyolite at leikhim.com] 
<Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 3:44 PM
<To: APBIDDLE at MAILAPS.ORG; amsat-bb at amsat.org
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Confirm Message (Moderator please help??)
<I am still not receiving daily digests since Nov 26. 
<Apparently SPAMCOP has blacklisted it repeatedly. Who is the 
<adminstrator for AMSAT.ORG? 
<www.amsat.org Whois: ISP University of California, San Diego
< listed in bl.spamcop.net (
<If there are no reports of ongoing objectionable email from 
<this system it will be delisted automatically in approximately 
<23 hours.
<Causes of listing
<*	System has sent mail to SpamCop spam traps in the past 
<week (spam traps are secret, no reports or evidence are 
<provided by SpamCop)
<*	SpamCop users have reported system as a source of spam 
<less than 10 times in the past week
<Additional potential problems
<(these factors do not directly result in spamcop listing)
<*	Too many delisting requests were made. Next request 
<might be allowed after 5.0 days
<Because of the above problems, express-delisting is not available
<Listing History
<In the past 20.1 days, it has been listed 6 times for a total 
<of 18.4 days 
<Dispute Listing
<If you are the administrator of this system and you are sure 
<this listing is erroneous, you may request that we review the 
<listing. Because everyone wants to dispute their listing, 
<regardless of merit, we reserve the right to ignore meritless 
<Dispute listing of 
<On 12/15/2013 6:42 AM, Alan wrote:
<	Joe,
<	This is a problem which has been around for some time, 
<and is getting worse.  Small ISPs, and some
<	larger ones, use spam control programs such as Spam Cop 
<and Iron Key.  They have various ways of
<	detecting spam sources, and these are blocked at the 
<ISP level, so you never see the messages sent to
<	you.  Unfortunately they block entire domains, such as 
<AMSAT.ORG, usually for 24 hours unless the
<	block is reset.  If your ISP is blocked, you have about 
<a 50-50 chance of getting a bounce message
<	when you send a message. 
<	I have to get my internet from a small rural phone 
<company, and eventually had to give up on using
<	their email.  Their domain was frequently blocked, so I 
<never knew whether email would go through.
<	When I found out about a problem, I could contact their 
<tech people who were good about fixing it, but
<	the same thing might happen the next day.  I finally 
<moved to Gmail, which is so huge no one would
<	dare block them, and they have resources to handle 
<incoming spam.  
<	73s,
<	Alan
<	<-----Original Message-----
<	<From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org 
<	<[mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Joe Leikhim
<	<Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:01 PM
<	<To: amsat-bb at amsat.org
<	<Subject: [amsat-bb] Confirm Message (Moderator please help??)
<	<
<	<I just got the following message from AMSAT-BB implying a 
<	<problem sending the digest to my e-mail account. Can anyone 
<	<tell me if I am alone with this problem? I had another person 
<	<complain of bounces to my account. I really want to fix this 
<	<if I can. My ISP Inmotionhosting claims that dome other e-mail 
<	<servers are blocked globally due to spam. I have no idea how 
<	<to fix this.
<	<
<	<I had to resubscribe to the BB.
<	<
<	<
<	<"Your membership in the mailing list AMSAT-BB has been 
<disabled due to
<	<excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
<	<30-Nov-2013.  You will not get any more messages from 
<this list until
<	<you re-enable your membership.  You will receive 1 
<more reminders like
<	<this before your membership in the list is deleted.
<	<
<	<To re-enable your membership, you can simply respond 
<to this message
<	<(leaving the Subject: line intact), or visit the 
<confirmation page at"
<	<
<	<-- 
<	<Joe Leikhim
<	<
<	<
<	<Leikhim and Associates
<	<
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<	<JLeikhim at Leikhim.com
<	<
<	<407-982-0446
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