[amsat-bb] Re: OSCAR or not OSCAR ?
johnag9d at gmail.com
Sat Nov 12 19:40:55 PST 2011
Not to mention the cost of launch to HEO. No one with the capability is giving it away or discounting it.
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On Nov 12, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Stefan Wagener <wageners at gmail.com> wrote:
> Cubesats working within the amateur radio frequency spectrum are
> commanded by licensed ham radio operators with the same rights and
> requirements as all of us. Many of them use the frequencies to
> downlink vital satellite information as well as scientific experiment
> data. All of this is well within the amateur radio service rules and a
> very positive contribution by our community to science and education.
> Your question are valid and they need to be addressed in a
> constructive, supportive environment where the community works
> together. I would encourage you attend one or more of the many annual
> cubists conferences and engage these folks. You certainly have enough
> to offer!
> Now having said that, cubesats are a wonderful addition, not a threat
> and show the diversity of our community. I am always amazed by the
> ignorance displayed and self-proclaimed expert label used by some as
> an argument to deny parts of our community their right to use small
> satellites with amateur radio on board. Interestingly, none of the
> amateur radio operators working with cubesats have ever argued against
> HEOs or denied the rest of us that right by questioning how and why we
> use the spectrum!
> Fortunately, AMSAT NA and AMSAT UK and many others have recognized the
> potential and the inclusiveness of the community.
> Enough said,
> Stefan, VE4NSA
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:34 PM, William Leijenaar <pe1rah at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi Stefan,
>> So the answer on my question if my 433MHz toy car, when I put it into space, can get an OSCAR number is YES!
>> According to the AMSAT website you mentioned of course... :-P
>> - My question was not specific if these satellites can or can't get an OSCAR number.
>> My intention was more if they should be scheduled as a ham-sat (and with that using ham frequencies).
>> I would recommend you to read the following IARU website!
>> (especially section VI. OPERATIONAL GUIDELINES)
>> It says the following:
>> "Organisations building satellites should compare their mission plans to
>> the requirements of the amateur-satellite service. Then, they should
>> determine if it is possible to comply with the requirements of the
>> amateur-satellite service or if licensing and operation should be in
>> some other radio service which is more consistent with the nature and
>> requirements of the mission.
>> A. The purposes of an amateur satellite should be:
>> (1) To provide communication resources for the general amateur radio community and/or
>> (2) To conduct technical investigations in all respects consistent with the Radio Regulations. [See RR S1.56 and RR S1.57.]"
>> I have great doubts with many off those CubeSats, if they comply to number (1)....
>> The only communication resources they provide is for themselves by a cheap downlink system, by using hams to receive data for them. This is not for the general amateur radio community as mentioned in number (1)...
>> The option they have is to go to "some other radio service which is more consistent with the nature and requirements of the mission."
>> 73 de PE1RAH, William
>>> Would recommend reading the info on AMSAT's website!
>>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/amsat-na/oscar.html >
>>> Stefan, VE4NSA
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