[amsat-bb] Re: Charge for Satellite Tracking?
wageners at gmail.com
Tue Nov 1 08:18:49 PDT 2011
Point well made. Keep up the good work and know that many in AMSAT are
behind you and will support you.
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:26 AM, KE7OSN <ke7osn at arrl.net> wrote:
> I think having stations set up to do that ranging would be neat to have if
> nothing else for an education opportunity.
> As a student working on building and launching one of these little
> nano-satellites I would like to see one thing cleared up. These are NOT
> University satellites, they are student satellites. They are designed and
> built by students, funded through grants and donations arranged by
> students. Universities provide little more then an framework
> for organizing these sorts of projects. So if the university is going to
> chip in to some fund on behalf of those helping track the satellites, then
> it would be really nice for them to through some money at the building of
> the satellites. At my school the department sponsoring our project has to
> pay the university rent for the space we take up in a building "owned" by
> the department for a project made up entirely of tuition paying students.
> We may only pay around $7-15K in tuition, and another $5-10K in housing,
> food, books, etc. but most of us if we are lucky can make about half our
> yearly costs from summer jobs or internships. The rest we scrounge for
> scholarships and grants. We put in around 20 hours a week into class and
> labs, another 15-40 in other school work. What little free time we have we
> spend in research labs instead of watching TV, or drinking. We spend a lot
> of that time trying to keep the project funded to a level that allows us to
> continue. We are very aware of how much it costs to construct a station to
> track satellites, and to build the satellites, and to launch the
> satellites. If we are able to bring in any extra money we spend that right
> back into the students we have putting 20 hours a week that they could and
> probably should spend on something outside of school. We devote years into
> these little boxes of electronics, in the hope that it will someday fly in
> space. We reach out and connect with other students doing the same thing,
> we congratulate them for their successes, and console them on their losses.
> I personally was up all night watching this latest launch as one of the
> cubes (E1P) was to have been launch on the Glory mission in march which
> failed to reach orbit. It is now on orbit and doing fine, M-Cubed however
> seams to be having issues and I will track it every chance I get to help
> that team understand what is going on.
> I got into nano-satellites by first being a HAM, and if I have my way
> anything I put into orbit will be switched over to a BBS, APRS digi, or
> even voice repeater when the scientific mission is done. That time may not
> come in the operational life span of the satellite and it is very important
> that it complete the mission that someone has generously paid for. If
> nothing else then I hope what I learn from this endeavor will serve to
> further the collective understanding of something.
> I attend a state school as a student of Mechanical Engineering, I have been
> dumpster diving for parts, I carry two rolls of duct tape, I find a hammer
> can fix many problems, I have spent hours building things to replace tools
> I either cannot afford, or cannot afford to wait for. The moral is that
> these aren't multi-million dollar projects with blank checks, these are
> shoestring operations that have to take things one step at a time. If you
> don't want to help out the next generation of aerospace engineers and
> rocket scientists that's up to you. We won't turn down help, but many of us
> have grown to expect nothing from anyone. We will build a ladder so we can
> through our satellite into orbit if we have to.
> I'm sorry if I seam over passionate or long winded, but please keep in mind
> that I have watched for several years as budgets have been cut, my tuition
> and living expenses goes up, and my income and financial-aid remain the
> same. It is like a broken record (yes I know what records are) to hear
> people complain about a short term inconvenience and offer a solution that
> threatens long term progress.
> Anthony Odenthal
> President Amateur Radio Club at OSU
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 21:45, Dave Guimont <dguimon1 at san.rr.com> wrote:
>> Very good, Peter, I was hoping we could get Jim to chime in!!
>> 73 Dave
>> On 31.10.2011 21:17, jmfranke wrote:
>>> > To paraphrase Yoda in Star Wars:
>>> > Whine not. Do. Or do not. There is no whine.
>>> > John WA4WDL
>>> or just do it yourself....
>>> Sorry - I could not resist.. old AMSAT technology, almost forgotten
>>> by most people...
>>> Peter DB2OS
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>> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
>> dguimon1 at san.rr.com
>> Disagree: I learn....
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