[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess

Jim Wright wa4ivm at amsat.org
Mon Jun 27 09:45:40 PDT 2011


About 50 years ago during the SSB wars, Dubya TOO  Ole Yankee, W2OY,   
was notorious for calling, *"CQ  CQ, don't want any KIDS, LIDS or BUS 
PATROLS,  just good clean A M signals!" *
This describes at least three groups in ham radio today, not just on HF.

Kids *having fun*
LIDS *being LIDS*
Bus Patrols*commenting on the first two and jealous that they can't 
participate "their way"*.

Only thing changed is 50 years have passed and the topic is satellites,  
not AM.

Jim




On 6/27/2011 12:12 PM, Gregg Wonderly wrote:
> In my several years of being a licensed ham, this is the theme of most contacts
> about SAT work.  The OSCAR class stations always just do whatever they want.  It
> seems that the attitude is, I've spent the time and money to have this kind of
> station, and I'm entitled to use it at my discretion.  I think it is great to
> see this kind of dedication to operating, but as many are saying here and have
> said before, it seems a little bit more than unfair that a single resource on
> the other end, is not shared fairly, especially for equipment which was intended
> to be shared.
>
> Satellites are limited resources.  If you put a lot of time and money into your
> station to use that limited resource, you might also consider putting some time
> and money into getting additional resources up in the air so that it's easier
> for you to make good use of your system.
>
> Nothing is free in this world...
>
> Gregg Wonderly
> W5GGW
>
> On 6/27/2011 10:54 AM, wa4hfn at comcast.net wrote:
>> Field Day to my understanding is to see how ops can get on the with the bare minimum of equipment needed to make the contact.NOT to blast the **** out of the bird and walk all over the little guy trying to play fair.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeff KB2M"<kb2m at comcast.net>
>> To: "AMSAT"<amsat-bb at amsat.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:35:35 AM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
>>
>>    If it wasn't for the Oscar class stations making "HI POWER multi contacts"
>> who would help the vast majority of weak portable FD stations make their one
>> FD contact? Certainly not a weak station calling CQ for 5 passes!  I've
>> never heard two OCS making contact with each other, it's always with a much
>> weaker station. This is the other side of the same argument heard every year
>> after FD. Anyway I got my contact :)
>>
>> 73 Jeff kb2m 2A SNJ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On
>> Behalf Of wa4hfn at comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 11:14 AM
>> To: AMSAT
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] FD Mess
>>
>> It took me 5 satellite passes before I could make 1 contact There were too
>> many ops making what sounded like HI POWER multi contacts .This should not
>> have happened. Maybe someone with good writting skills could send the ARRL
>> world above 50 an artical on how to work the birds during FD
>> WA4HFN em55  Damon
>>
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