[amsat-bb] Re: 9 cubesats on board Vega

Stefan Wagener wageners at gmail.com
Thu Dec 8 20:56:50 PST 2011

Hi Peter,

Thanks for responding. I am amazed by your reaction to a simple post.
Calling it "crude, false, blinded by rage" is quite a statement. But
hey, you have every right to your opinion!

Now then, please help me and others understand your comments you made
at AMSAT-UK (listed below):

"The amateur community in general is not interested in Cubesats,
"I know some of you might not like to hear that
"It might sound like a high nose attitude, but it is life
"Those that have done P3 satellites have no interest in Cubesats

If those statements, which by the way come directly from the AMSAT-UK
video of your presentation (available online) are made by the
president of AMSAT-DL at an international meeting, I certainly do not
call this an endorsement but rather a denouncement of AMSAT-DL's
interest in cubesats.

If you call this "crude, false and blinded by rage"...  I am not sure
what your talking about and it certainly does not help or aid in the

The simple basic fact is that AMSAT-DL under your leadership is not
building, designing or planning any CubeSat projects (as far as I
know). Now, please prove me wrong. I would love to support
(financially) an AMSAT-DL Cubesat mission.

Stefan VE4NSA (DG1GWS)

On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Peter Guelzow <peter.guelzow at kourou.de> wrote:
> On 08.12.2011 16:17, Stefan Wagener wrote:
>> very simple, politics.
>> AMSAT-DL's  leadership has openly
>> denouced Cubesats. So two of the biggest AMSATs either can't or don't
>> want to. Talk about a pathetic situation for our community.
>> Stefan VE4NSA
> I don't know what kind of problem you have and why you make such crude
> and false presences.
> What is so wrong when we are saying that we (the AMSAT-DL members and
> BOD) want to build and fly another "AMSAT P3-E" rather than a CubeSat?
> Should we scrap P3-E for the sake of another CubeSat??
> Neither does the AMSAT-DL BOD nor does our membership condemn or
> disapprove CubeSats.
> In the past years we had CubeSat team from German Universities coming to
> our Symposium.
> We have even given advice to some of them or help *if wanted*. We also
> attended a critical design review of SwissCube, etc..
> I was personally at the CubeSat laboratory of the University of Tokyo a
> couple of years ago to see some of their first CubeSats and discuss some
> ideas with the Students and their Professor.
> We have simply decided to concentrate our efforts to what is more
> important for our community.
> If you would have listen *carefuly* and not blinded by rage to what I
> have said during the AMSAT-UK Colloquium, you would not make repeatedly
> such statements...
> Peter DB2OS
> President AMSAT-DL
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