[amsat-bb] Re: [Mw] Pre Fab Coax sections
TexasRF at aol.com
Thu May 21 18:17:28 PDT 2009
This is certainly a novel approach to making UG21 connectors work with
LMR400 cable. But, considering you can buy brand new N connectors with silver
plated center pin for only $5.95 (at Texas Towers) it seems like a lot of
work to maybe reuse an old connector. New UG21 connectors cost as much as one
that fits properly so there is no cost savings going that route.
Regular L:MR400 uses a copper plated aluminum center conductor. Messing
with the center conductor on that cable is going to damage the copper plating;
making it impossible to solder.
Gerald Williamson K5GW
General Manager/Texas Towers
In a message dated 5/21/2009 8:00:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
n5gdb at austin.rr.com writes:
Glenn Little and others,
There is a neat way to use type N connectors on LMR400 and LMR400UF. I
an article for QST/QEX on the method and passed it to Ray Mack, W5IFS, who
is an editor for QEX. He has not passed the article on as yet, though.
Basically, the diameter of the inner conductor is too large for the
N connector, therefore that diameter must be reduced to fit. The way to do
that reduction effectively when you are making up a number of cables is to
make a set of "Center Conductor Reduction Dies." Start with inch-long
sections of 3/8-inch cold rolled steel and drill all the way through each
piece with a series of numbered drills starting with the largest drill
is the diameter of the center conductor and ending with the drill that
enters the center pin of the N connector. This work is best done on a
working lathe to get a concentric hole. Center drill the entry end to
provide a starting chamfer. Using a thin cutoff wheel in your Dremel
Moto-Tool, make two cross cuts on the centerline to about 1/8-inch below
chamfer on that end and once on the other end without a chamfer. Now,
the dies in descending sequence, chuck the die in an electric drill. Strip
the end of the cable and expose a little more of the center conductor than
is needed. Insert the cable into the reduction die and spin the drill
until the end reaches the insulation (there will be a short section of
unreduced center conductor). Reverse the die in the drill and finish the
to the insulation. Move to the next die. Occasionally, trim the copper
that develops. Stop when the center conductor enters the center pin of the
connector. For LMR400UF, you must make the center conductor a solid
conductor by tinning the exposed center conductor. Again, inspect the face
of the insulation and remove any copper flash to prevent a possible short.
Now, you can assemble the cable to the N connector just as you would
assemble it using RG8 cable. The cutting edges of the reduction die are
those slots that you cut using the Dremel (you could do it with a hack saw
as I did at first, but the Dremel is much faster). I have assembled about
N-M and N-F connectors to LMR400 cables using this method which really
trying to reduce the center conductor with a file when you have many
connectors to install.
Lloyd Crawford, N5GDB, EM10bf
n5gdb at austin.rr.com
Roadrunners Microwave Group
----- Original Message -----
From: "D. McGarrett" <dmcgarrett at optonline.net>
To: "Glenn Little WB4UIV" <glennmaillist at bellsouth.net>
Cc: "Microwave list" <microwave at echo.valinet.com>; "'Amsat - BBs'"
<amsat-bb at amsat.org>; "Jim Sanford" <wb4gcs at amsat.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Mw] [amsat-bb] Pre Fab Coax sections
> Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
>> If you like throwing money at the problem, try Pasternack.
>> 5 feet at $83.00 at S. M. Electronics.
>> 5 feet at $78.25 at Pasternack.
>> I always build my own. That way I can only blame myself for bad cables.
> I don't have a solution for you, but when I was a working engineer, I
> found that Pasternack was one of
> the most expensive solutions (to anything!) there was. I never heard of
> S.M. Electronics. Google will
> give you a list of connector manufacturers and sales people. I'm with
> Glenn--build your own! LMR-xx cable is a product of Times
> Microwave. Excellent cable!
> (If you can use LMR-400, it will be a lot cheaper, but you _can't_ use
> regular type N connectors on it.)
> On the other hand, type N connectors are a lot easier to use than the GD
> UHF connectors, and
> work a heck of a lot better--but you probably know that already.
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