[amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....!

n3tl@bellsouth.net n3tl at bellsouth.net
Mon Jul 20 08:05:32 PDT 2009


Should I wait until you're satisfied that the Apollo 11 mission and all surrounding the Apollo program was NOT, collectively, a hoax before I mail your QSL card for the contact you seemed excited to make yesterday on SO-50 with K5E?

I mean ... who would celebrate a hoax?

I was born in 1956 and grew up in the middle of the Cold War and the Space Race. I am insulted by the "moon deniers," as an earlier poster characterized them. 

They confound me on two levels:

1 - Collectively, they fail to mention that America's one true adversary in the race to the moon - Russia - has never raised an iota of skepticism over the Apollo program's validity. Given the access to the audio, photographic and video record of the program, the fact that the Apollo program's achievements stand without challenge backed by significant evidence on the part of the single entity with the most to gain by exposing such a charade suggests there is nothing to expose. I suppose you can claim that Russia was in on it, too (i.e., "if only the high up know about the hoax and the miss-direction - then a hoax on a massive scale can be pulled off"). Yeah ... right. 

2 - Collectively, you fail to include the deaths of Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee in the Apollo 1 capsule. Since the Apollo program succeeded in completing multiple moon landings, their deaths cannot be attributed to a "Capricorn One scenario." How and why did that tragic accident become a part of the hoax? Were Grissom, White and Chaffee the inaugural members of the federal witness protection program? Oh, wait ... their deaths triggered the launch of the hoax because of the dangers involved. Yeah ... right.

Let me know about that QSL.


Tim - N3TL
K5E - The 40th Anniversary Apollo 11 Satellite Special Event

-------------- Original message from kd8bxp at aol.com: -------------- 

> It wouldn't be as hard to hoax something like that at all - 
> And yes - I know what I am going to say will make people think that I got the 
> idea from a movie. I did not. 
> But the movie Capricorn One (Which was made late 70s early 80s I believe) is a 
> movie about a manned program to mars - the program had problems and it was 
> decided to rather then have it fail - Nasa would fake it - there were problems 
> of course with faking it as well - namely the astronauts where going to play 
> along until the space craft ended up being destroyed because of the heat shield 
> - so the astronauts had to be killed. Anyways, total fiction - I know it I 
> understand. But in the movie - key personnel in Nasa knew about the hoax - knew 
> what was going on and miss directed the underlings - at one point - a man 
> working in control runs and program on his own - saying the messages couldn't be 
> coming from mars the signals were too close - the director (who is in on the 
> hoax) asks which console he is on - and then states oh yes we have been having 
> problems with that console - the next day the worker is assigned a different job 
> - but will not let well enough alone - speaks to a reported (movie remember) - 
> and is then eliminated - 
> Point is - if only the high up know about the hoax and the miss-direction - then 
> a hoax on a massive scale can be pulled off - 
> Now - as I said in one of my other posts - I still have questions - but the 
> gentleman who has been emailing me has made me think a little more on what was 
> going on. 
> Is it a hoax? I don't know I said that before. 
> I would like to think not, but I still have questions about it. 
> Did I just give you a movie plot for me reasons it could have been - Yes and I 
> fully realize it was a movie plot. And therefore not anyway real life. Just 
> interesting 
> That is all I am saying. Here - I don't like the idea of all the information 
> coming from one source - more sources are needed. 
> I am open to the possibility I am wrong - I just want to see prove from a source 
> other then Nasa 
> LeRoy, KD8BXP 
> http://www.HamOhio.com 
> ------Original Message------ 
> From: Joe 
> Sender: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org 
> To: William Leijenaar 
> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org 
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Evidence of moon landings....! 
> Sent: Jul 20, 2009 10:04 AM 
> Explain me this,,For something as big as NASA to be a hoax there would 
> be 10s of thousands of people in on it for 50+ years. and not one of 
> them has talked? Thats unbelivable. Take crop circles, which is a fairly 
> obvious hoax, there was 2 old drunks in england doing them and they 
> talked about it and showed how they did them after just a couple of 
> years. Yet there are people who actually still think that flying saucers 
> are making them. 
> William Leijenaar wrote: 
> >Hi AMSATs, 
> > 
> >The news is full again of the moon landings, where NASA claims to have new 
> evidence, which makes me laugh again. I have the same idea like LeRoy, KD8BXP. 
> When the information is only from one source it is not reliable at all, every 
> scientist should know. 
> > 
> >This doesn't mean that I state no man has been on the moon, for me it is just 
> not clear. 
> >I would like to see pictures from another nations satellite, in higher 
> resolution. I believe we will soon know, as there are several countries wanting 
> to go to the moon. I am looking forward to their pictures and the state of the 
> equipment left on the moon, in case the landings were no film studio work :o) 
> > 
> >For the moment I keep it more close to the earth with my small transponder 
> work, 
> >Maybe in the future there will be a chance to have a moon-ponder :o) 
> > 
> >73 
> >William 
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> > 
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