[amsat-bb] Re: The Moon is our Future

Gregg Wonderly w5ggw at cox.net
Thu Jul 2 16:21:08 PDT 2009

It seems to me that the correct choice is the highest frequency we can get on 
board for at least 24dB at the longest length of antenna that we would be 
allowed to send up.

Gregg Wonderly

Robert Bruninga wrote:
>> Why go with the minimal antenna gain?
>> ... any antenna with a 3 db point that exceeds 
>> 6.5 degrees is just wasting transmitter power.
> I think that would be about a 24 dB gain antenna.  Pretty big
> and would take some careful alignment...  Kinda like a realy big
> EME array
>> Just remember what an Oscar 10 station took 
>> to have reliable communications, At Apogee 
>> it was only 35,000 miles away, the Moon is ...]
>> [250,000 miles]
> Which is 7 times farther, squared or 50 times more power (about
> 17 dB).
> BUT one easy way to get gain is to use just a long coaxial gain
> cable.  I think it takes about 22 feet of coaxial dipole
> elements at 2 meters to give about 6 dB of gain.  So laying down
> 6 dB gain segments on the rock of the moon is as easy as
> unrolling a spool of cable.  Unrolling 8 of these with the right
> spacing could yield about 17 dB.
> Of course this woiuld only point straight up, so it would need
> to be on a moon base in the middle of the earth facing side.
> But since there is a lot of interest in moon bases near the
> poles where there might be water, then a similar array of layed
> down coaxial cable arrays could be phased horizontally to point
> at earth.  Actually, just about any direction can  be obtained
> with the right spacing.
> ONLY problem of course is there has to be someone with legs to
> roll out the cables.
> Just a thought.
> Bob, WB4APR
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