[amsat-bb] Re: K5D an embarrassment / poor operating procedure.
Gary "Joe" Mayfield
gary_mayfield at hotmail.com
Tue Feb 24 20:08:40 PST 2009
You use the phonetics that work. If your call gets busted the same way on a
regular basis it is time to change things up. My call is kk0sd. When I say
kilo kilo zero sierra delta, the station always comes back k0sd when I say
kilowatt kilowatt zero sierra delta they get it right every time.
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Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:38 PM
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: K5D an embarrassment / poor operating procedure.
The NATO/ITU phonetics aren't perfect. The "DXer's" phonetics (mostly
place names) are a reasonable alternative, but only the two sets
should be used. When I'm working 'phone, when I've got it together, I
try to repeat back using the other set. And I hate Kilowatt, too- I
always hear that as "KW".
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:21:47 -0600
From: Sean Cavanaugh <seanc at unixgeeks.ca>
Darin Cowan wrote:
> W9VNE said:
>>> Unfortunately the operation of AO 51 is a large embarrassment. I
>>> have never in 56 years of operating ever seen demonstrated such
>>> poor operating procedures.
> I'd be happy if people would just use the proper phonetic alphabet. So
> logs have been messed up by "kilowatt" which is KW to me, as opposed to
> correct "kilo" and the other bizarre appellations of letters. And it's
> just on satellites that this is a problem. When I hear something like
> "Kilowatt Capacitor Eight United Airlines" (made up example, if you are
> KC8UAL, I'm not picking on you or accusing you) I can pretty much
> it won't end up correct in the logs. That makes it a non-QSO and a
> time for both ends.
> Combine proper phonetic use with "listen before transmitting" and 90%
> better of the issues we see would go away.
I am often guilty of not using the correct phonetics, but I do have a
reason. 95% of the time, if the other station has marginal reception,
they come back as VE5, not VA5. I think it's just the other ops' brain
filling in the blanks with what they expect to hear, so I will correct
as "Victor America 5" and it usually seems to solve that problem. I do
try to stick with the ITU phonetics 99% of the time though.
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