[amsat-bb] Re: Organized Chaos.
n4qwf1 at gmail.com
Wed May 14 17:06:42 PDT 2008
Good grief here we go again. Got to revisit this about every year I guess. Wow!
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga at usna.edu> wrote:
> Im tired of the old FM bashers.
> The FM birds attract a lot of users and QRM.
> So cleary a lot of folks like them.
> Besides, tune into any of hundreds of frequencies on the ham
> bands during a contest and you will hear the same thing. Zero
> usefull commmunications capability but a heck of a lot of folks
> seem to be enjoying it.
> I wish the old fud FM bashers would just go find something in
> Ham radio they enjoy and go do it, rather than complaining about
> what others find fun in the hobby..
> My experience in 46 years of ham radio is that there is room in
> it for everyone and everyone's interests. But nothing,
> absolutely nothing, is gained by bashing what other people
> enjoy. If you find something you like in the hobby, do it. If
> not, then get out of the way.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org
>> [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On Behalf Of Ernie Howard
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:49 PM
>> To: Dave Guimont
>> Cc: amsat-bb at amsat.org
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Organized Chaos.
>> And now for a dissenting opinion.....
>> FM sats work. They serve a good purpose. I, and a hundreds of
>> other sat ops
>> enjoy them. Sometimes the communications can be chaos, but
>> most passes here
>> they are not over used.
>> Dave are you one of the guys who also complained about the
>> 'ditters' on the
>> linear birds? And the guys who don't follow the 'one true
>> rule' on the
>> linear birds? And the guys who slide by up/down onto your qso
>> on the linear
>> birds? And the guys running too much power and loading down
>> the passband on
>> the linear birds. Is that good operating?
>> Yes, poor operating habits can appear anywhere. So instead of
>> grinding your
>> ax all the time, be an elmer.
>> Dave Guimont wrote:
>> > John, the operation of FM voice satellites is a travesty
>> for ham radio...
>> > I've been licensed for 57 years, on amateur satellites for
> 33 years
>> > (Oscar 7) and the FM voice operation is the most ridiculous
>> > aberration I've witnessed in all of amateur
>> > exists here also!!
>> > It is pretty obvious NO COMMUNICATION exists on AO51,
>> > all of their communication is on here. Why do they bother
> to turn
>> > the radio on???
>> > Many of us attended AMSAT a lot conventions in an attempt to
>> > discourage throwing that money "down the tubes" on FM voice,
> to no
>> > avail. Someone had an "ax to grind", and several of the
>> > "powers that be" in AMSAT-NA told me to "mind my own
>> business". They
>> > were obviously the "ax grinders".
>> > FM voice on the amateur satellites is about equal to the
>> same degree
>> > of difficulty as a cell phone operation!
>> > No wonder our membership is deteriorating.
>> > Ancient AO7 and present VO52 hopefully are keeping some
>> > until Europe launches P3E....
>> > That's where my donations go.....
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