[amsat-bb] Re: Phase 4 versus Eagle

sco@sco-inc.com sco at sco-inc.com
Thu Dec 13 11:53:39 PST 2007

The failure of AO-40 was not a problem of "rocket science". It was 
caused by human stupidity ... not writing down what had to be removed 
before flight so if the only person who knew that info could not be 
available their backup would.


At 12:25 PM 12/13/2007, you wrote:
>Yes, they are aware of the fate of AO-40. They have had their own problems
>over the years and they understand that this is rocket science.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: sco at sco-inc.com [mailto:sco at sco-inc.com]
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:15 PM
>To: Rick Hambly (W2GPS)
>Cc: amsat-BB
>Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 4 versus Eagle
>after AO-40 blew I would find it hard to believe that they would
>trust the success of their mission with another AO40 type sat
>onboard. Are they aware of our past track record?
>Good if they let us.
>At 10:08 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote:
> >Les,
> >
> >Intelsat has already told me that it is OK to attach a satellite with
> >tank and fuel. In fact, they offered to fuel our satellite with the excess
> >fuel from filling their own tanks.
> >
> >Rick
> >W2GPS
> >AMSAT LM2232
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces at amsat.org] On
> >Behalf Of sco at sco-inc.com
> >Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:28 AM
> >To: Andrew Glasbrenner
> >Cc: amsat-BB
> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Phase 4 versus Eagle
> >
> >
> >I doubt that would ever happen. If I was the CEO of the launch sat i
> >would never let an "amateur" rocket motor hitch a ride on my multi
> >million dollar bird. Just like NASA won't let us do it.
> >
> >If you can think of a way for us to get from GTO without a motor and
> >fuel then it might happen.
> >
> >Les W4SCO
> >www.scoincsoftware.com
> >
> >
> >At 10:08 PM 12/12/2007, you wrote:
> > >One of the possibilities I have not seen relayed well from the meetings
> > >general knowledge is that it may be possible for Intelsat to attach Eagle
> >to
> > >one of their satellites, and drop us off in GTO on their way to GEO. This
> > >possibility alone is worth working this opportunity out to it's
> > >
> > >It has become very apparent to me that we will not fund a HEO solely on
> > >current membership donations. Ever. We have to go for the outside funding
> > >Tom mentioned, and the best way to do that is a simple, tool-like
> > >application like a GEO, geared heavily towards EMCOMM. Too many of us
> > >taken the wait and see approach when it comes to supporting a HEO
> > >The money has to come first, then the satellite gets built and launched,
> >not
> > >the other way around.
> > >
> > >73, Drew KO4MA
> >
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